This week Ray reveals some juicy gossip and how UK estate agent Foxtons punches above its weight.

In this episode

0:00 Opening titles
0:14 Not an advert
1:13 Ray can’t keep a secret
3:26 The Mom Test
6:25 “I’ll call you right back”
9:25 “The customer comes first”
11:04 How Foxtons punches above its weight
12:50 So why aren’t Foxtons more dominant?
17:27 Ray’s thought for the day
17:58 Closing credits

Other books mentioned

The Mom Test – Rob Fitzpatrick –

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About The Pig Wrestlers

Ray Rafiq is the founder of increasingly larger businesses: Regent Street Cinema, Baker Street Bakery, Wigwamm, GetAgent, Unmortgage.

Jock Busuttil is the founder of Product People Limited, a freelance head of product, author and conference speaker, with over two decades’ experience helping technology companies. (

Recorded on 5 March 2021
Music: Crazy Glue (Instrumental Version) by Josh Woodward (CC-BY 4.0)