Ray and Jock discuss how Ember is reducing Ray’s anxiety, why challenger banks have missed a trick, and how Octopus Energy has an unfair advantage.
In this episode
0:00 Opening titles
0:14 Ember vs FreeAgent
7:04 Disappointed with challenger banks
10:29 Contracts as code
13:17 Your PropTech is s**t
14:05 Octopus Energy’s Kraken
18:24 Every system should start small
21:15 Poker / Tricky 2nd album
22:44 Closing credits
The “contract as code” company Jock was struggling to remember was Simplifire.
About The Pig Wrestlers
Ray Rafiq is the founder of increasingly larger businesses: Regent Street Cinema, Baker Street Bakery, Wigwamm, GetAgent, Unmortgage.
Jock Busuttil is the founder of Product People Limited, a freelance head of product, author and conference speaker, with over two decades’ experience helping technology companies. (jockbusuttil.com)
Recorded on 19 and 26 February 2021
Music: Crazy Glue (Instrumental Version) by Josh Woodward (CC-BY 4.0)