Ray and Jock are joined by Janna Bastow, CEO and co-founder of ProdPad and co-founder of Mind The Product. They discuss the unique challenges of running two rapidly-growing startups at the same time, the dangers of the agency trap, and support networks for entrepreneurs.

In this episode

0:00 Opening titles
0:51 Introduction to Janna
2:02 Juggling 2 scale-ups at once
4:13 How did the two businesses differ?
5:41 What would you do differently?
6:59 One learning from each business
9:40 Investor interest
11:44 What’s next for ProdPad?
12:53 Do you pay attention to competitors?
15:20 The reality of being product-led
16:53 Avoiding ‘the agency trap’
23:26 How do you manage your time?
27:10 Working from home or living at work?
28:27 Who’s your support network?
33:12 In search of work/life balance
35:38 Kepler and Orion
36:59 Closing credits

About The Pig Wrestlers

Ray Rafiq is the founder of increasingly larger businesses: Regent Street Cinema, Baker Street Bakery, Wigwamm, GetAgent, Unmortgage.

Jock Busuttil is the founder of Product People Limited, a freelance head of product, author and conference speaker, with over two decades’ experience helping technology companies. (jockbusuttil.com)

Recorded on 30 July 2021
Music: Crazy Glue (Instrumental Version) by Josh Woodward (CC-BY 4.0)